Episode 15: “Tech That Doesn’t Suck the Life Out of CI”
If you've ever wondered which tech tools actually support CI and which ones slowly drain your will to teach, this episode breaks down the essential truth about “Tech That Doesn’t Suck the Life Out of CI.”
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Transcript
(upbeat music)
Speaker:Good morning, everybody.
Speaker:How's everybody doing today?
Speaker:Welcome to the "Comprehend This" podcast.
Speaker:So, okay, picture this.
Speaker:You're all set for your CI,
Speaker:beautifully planned lesson,
Speaker:compelling input, clear
Speaker:targets, all the good stuff,
Speaker:and then your tech
Speaker:decides it's auditioning
Speaker:for a horror movie.
Speaker:If this feels
Speaker:personal, welcome to the club.
Speaker:Today's episode is all about tech
Speaker:that doesn't suck the life out of CI.
Speaker:And I brought in two
Speaker:fantastic humans to help.
Speaker:First up, Noemi Rodriguez-Grimshaw,
Speaker:award-winning educator, tech whisperer,
Speaker:and the only person I
Speaker:know who can make AI sound
Speaker:like it's not about to sabotage us.
Speaker:And joining her, she's
Speaker:not with us just yet,
Speaker:but hoping she'll join us
Speaker:later on, is Amina Thornton.
Speaker:She's a middle school CI
Speaker:warrior, conference hopper,
Speaker:and living proof that if your tech
Speaker:survives sixth graders,
Speaker:it can survive anything.
Speaker:We're breaking down
Speaker:which tools actually help,
Speaker:which ones deserve the recycling bin,
Speaker:and why we've all rage quit
Speaker:at mid-lesson at least once.
Speaker:Let's get into it
Speaker:after these short messages.
Speaker:Ever feel like you're
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Speaker:fresh, ready-to-use lessons,
Speaker:time-saving tools, and
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Speaker:Welcome to "Comprehend This,"
Speaker:real talk for real language teachers.
Speaker:No drills, no dry
Speaker:theory, just honest stories,
Speaker:practical ideas, and a
Speaker:reminder you're not alone
Speaker:in the CI trenches.
Speaker:Let's dive in.
Speaker:And welcome everybody, welcome back.
Speaker:I'm sorry I was just
Speaker:emailing with our other guests
Speaker:who's having trouble logging on,
Speaker:so I appreciate your patience.
Speaker:So right now we've got Noemi on.
Speaker:Noemi, go ahead and tell us
Speaker:a little bit about yourself.
Speaker:Hi everyone.
Speaker:So my name is Noemi Rodriguez.
Speaker:I hail from the great,
Speaker:amazing state of New Jersey,
Speaker:born and raised here with
Speaker:family roots in Galicia, Spain.
Speaker:I've been teaching now
Speaker:for over 20 years, Spanish,
Speaker:in particular the high school students,
Speaker:and then prior to that middle school.
Speaker:And I've also dabbled in elementary,
Speaker:also English language learning as well.
Speaker:So a little bit of everything.
Speaker:I'm at team_logramos on social media,
Speaker:and just happy to support
Speaker:world language teachers,
Speaker:both near and far.
Speaker:Awesome, we're so glad
Speaker:to have you this morning.
Speaker:And we've been talking behind the scenes
Speaker:before we started about
Speaker:tech and AI especially.
Speaker:So let me know, what's your first,
Speaker:your go-to tech tool that you go,
Speaker:your go-to one?
Speaker:So I am a big fan of designing
Speaker:and customizing your own GPTs.
Speaker:So I've been doing that now
Speaker:for about a year and a half,
Speaker:where I'll log into chat GPT,
Speaker:and I will use one of the
Speaker:custom GPTs that I've created
Speaker:for my own planning and
Speaker:resource creation purposes.
Speaker:But the custom GPTs, which is great,
Speaker:I create them, I do pay to have chat GPT
Speaker:help me create these,
Speaker:but they're accessible to anyone
Speaker:who has a chat GPT account for free.
Speaker:So the custom GPTs that
Speaker:I have that I love to use
Speaker:are the acquisition driven language
Speaker:instruction assistant,
Speaker:the novice text creator, the
Speaker:authentic resource locator,
Speaker:because I love using authentic resource
Speaker:and making it comprehensible
Speaker:and breaking it down for students.
Speaker:So these are just a few
Speaker:that I've dabbled with,
Speaker:that I've created with the intention
Speaker:of not only supporting myself,
Speaker:but also supporting
Speaker:other language teachers
Speaker:that are out there.
Speaker:And they're super easy to
Speaker:find if you use chat GPT,
Speaker:you go to the custom GPT bar,
Speaker:and then if you type in my name,
Speaker:a whole bunch will pop
Speaker:up that are just public
Speaker:and accessible for anyone to check out.
Speaker:So that's been my primary go-to
Speaker:with lesson plan
Speaker:resources and image generation.
Speaker:And I've been dabbling a
Speaker:lot with Google, Gemini,
Speaker:and Nano Banana, and that technology.
Speaker:So just trying to keep it
Speaker:light, fresh, comprehensible,
Speaker:and also really
Speaker:engaging for the students.
Speaker:Awesome, awesome, awesome.
Speaker:And we've got Amina on with us.
Speaker:How are you doing this morning, Amina?
Speaker:I'm doing well.
Speaker:I have to use my phone.
Speaker:I don't know why I
Speaker:can't get on with my laptop,
Speaker:but can you guys hear me?
Speaker:We can hear you perfectly, yes, awesome.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Tell us a little bit about yourself
Speaker:since you're here with us.
Speaker:Hi, my name is Amina Thornton.
Speaker:I've been teaching middle
Speaker:school Spanish since 2002
Speaker:at the school that I went to school with.
Speaker:I have been doing CI for about 10 years.
Speaker:So I still consider
Speaker:myself new with the CI.
Speaker:I do have two colleagues who
Speaker:were kind of getting on board.
Speaker:So it's little things here and there
Speaker:that starting to work with them.
Speaker:So we are, as I say, a work in progress.
Speaker:Awesome, awesome, awesome.
Speaker:So glad to have you.
Speaker:And I hate to put you
Speaker:on the spot right away,
Speaker:but what's your go-to tech
Speaker:tool that you like to use?
Speaker:So I don't use chat GPT.
Speaker:My colleague does.
Speaker:Because we are Microsoft, I use Copilot.
Speaker:So I throw things into
Speaker:Copilot to see what ideas come up,
Speaker:how to make games, or
Speaker:not games, but lessons.
Speaker:More entertaining, not entertaining,
Speaker:but more not so boring
Speaker:where their eyes roll back
Speaker:in the back of their head
Speaker:and it's not always stories.
Speaker:Yep, great, great.
Speaker:And I'll tell you mine.
Speaker:I do use chat GPT a lot and
Speaker:we'll talk more about that.
Speaker:But where I wanted to talk about was
Speaker:something that I use.
Speaker:I've been using it for years
Speaker:and I've now even using it even more.
Speaker:I used to use it only for quizzes
Speaker:and now I use it for
Speaker:everything possible under the sun.
Speaker:And that is formative.com.
Speaker:So here's the link to it, formative,
Speaker:there for everybody who wants to see.
Speaker:I love this.
Speaker:It is designed as an assessment tool,
Speaker:but I use it for everything.
Speaker:I use it to replace
Speaker:Canvas in my thing and Google,
Speaker:what's it?
Speaker:Google Classroom, I replace everything.
Speaker:I put my warmups in there.
Speaker:I put all my practices in there.
Speaker:I put in reflection questions in there.
Speaker:Exit tickets are in there.
Speaker:And I do that now because
Speaker:it tracks everything for me.
Speaker:I can assign a standard to it
Speaker:and I can go through
Speaker:and look at by class,
Speaker:which standards are being hit or not.
Speaker:I can look at it by student
Speaker:to see which standards
Speaker:are being hit or not.
Speaker:And it's got so many different ways
Speaker:that kids can put their information in.
Speaker:So our school pays for quizzes.
Speaker:And I don't really like quizzes.
Speaker:It's a little bit limited compared to
Speaker:what formative can do.
Speaker:And it seems everything is more gamified.
Speaker:It's kind of a little bit
Speaker:more like games for everything.
Speaker:And it's great for that.
Speaker:But I want formative to be
Speaker:a little bit more serious
Speaker:where I can do it and I have
Speaker:more ways I can use formative.
Speaker:I can do drag and drop.
Speaker:So I do for songs, I do close activities.
Speaker:So there's a word bank
Speaker:and they just have to drag
Speaker:and drop right on in there.
Speaker:We used to use, now I'm
Speaker:gonna forget the name.
Speaker:Microsoft took it away.
Speaker:What was it called?
Speaker:Flipgrid.
Speaker:They took it away.
Speaker:I couldn't find a
Speaker:reasonable replacement for it,
Speaker:but formative allows them to upload
Speaker:videos of themselves.
Speaker:They can record right with informative
Speaker:videos of themselves.
Speaker:So I can put a question in there
Speaker:that they have to
Speaker:answer verbally in that way.
Speaker:They can do audio, upload audio.
Speaker:There's short answer.
Speaker:There's essay questions.
Speaker:There's multiple
Speaker:choice, true and the false.
Speaker:There's matching.
Speaker:There's all these different ways that
Speaker:they can put things in.
Speaker:They can upload files if they wanna,
Speaker:if it's a PDF or something.
Speaker:So everything I can
Speaker:see, and I have a record,
Speaker:it saves it all in there.
Speaker:I have it in there.
Speaker:If it's a multiple choice question
Speaker:or any type of question, and I say,
Speaker:oh, these four kids
Speaker:got, they put this answer
Speaker:and it's a wrong answer.
Speaker:I can click on all four of those kids.
Speaker:I can type out one response why that
Speaker:answer is not correct.
Speaker:And it sends it all to them right away.
Speaker:If they have a question
Speaker:during a quiz or any assignment,
Speaker:they don't have to get
Speaker:up and out of their chair,
Speaker:announce the whole
Speaker:question to the whole class,
Speaker:which invariably gives away the answer.
Speaker:You know how that works.
Speaker:They can type it right in there.
Speaker:It pops up on my screen.
Speaker:I can answer it privately for them.
Speaker:If it's something like,
Speaker:oh crap, I made a mistake
Speaker:in like the key or
Speaker:something, then I can just,
Speaker:I can fix it right there.
Speaker:And instead of regrading everybody,
Speaker:I just fixed the answer key.
Speaker:And guess what?
Speaker:Everybody gets regraded automatically.
Speaker:It also has, you know, you can,
Speaker:if you keep putting the
Speaker:same kind of feedback back,
Speaker:like this needs to be in Spanish,
Speaker:or I need this in a complete sentence,
Speaker:or any of those things,
Speaker:you can pin those comments.
Speaker:So you just have to click them.
Speaker:You have to keep typing
Speaker:them every single time.
Speaker:So I love it.
Speaker:You can build rubrics in there.
Speaker:So on a speaking assessment,
Speaker:I just create a assessment there.
Speaker:I'll make a speaking
Speaker:rubric as they're talking.
Speaker:I just click the buttons
Speaker:on the rubric, which ones?
Speaker:Bingo, it's done, instant.
Speaker:It has saved me so much time.
Speaker:And using AI, which I love about this,
Speaker:is if it's a multiple
Speaker:choice or anything you have,
Speaker:let's say you have a
Speaker:worksheet and you have it,
Speaker:you can upload it to it
Speaker:and it will try to convert it
Speaker:to one of their assessments off the bat.
Speaker:So I can create a,
Speaker:if I already had a paper
Speaker:version of a closed activity,
Speaker:I can take a picture of it, upload it,
Speaker:and it will transform it
Speaker:into its own closed activity right away.
Speaker:Or if it's multiple choice questions,
Speaker:it will put all the questions
Speaker:along with all the answers in for me.
Speaker:It won't let me, it
Speaker:won't select the answer key.
Speaker:I've got to go back and
Speaker:put the answer key in,
Speaker:but it does let me do
Speaker:that right off the bat.
Speaker:So it saves me a heck of a lot of time
Speaker:of having to type up
Speaker:things that used to be on paper.
Speaker:I can put them right in there.
Speaker:If I need to copy a textbook activity,
Speaker:I take a picture of the
Speaker:textbook activity on my phone
Speaker:and I upload it to the formative
Speaker:and it will convert it
Speaker:to a digital assignment
Speaker:so I can get it done, grade
Speaker:it right away much more easy.
Speaker:I don't have to worry about lost papers.
Speaker:I don't have to worry about a copy quota.
Speaker:I'm going over my paper limit.
Speaker:I don't have to worry about
Speaker:any of that kind of stuff.
Speaker:It's there.
Speaker:Kids go, where's the next assignment?
Speaker:What assignments am I missing?
Speaker:Go to formative.
Speaker:It tells you what
Speaker:assignments are open for you
Speaker:that you still can work on.
Speaker:So I just absolutely love formative.com
Speaker:as a great use tool for
Speaker:everything and anything
Speaker:because I get quick
Speaker:feedback, exit tickets,
Speaker:really easy feedback.
Speaker:We do warmups, really easy feedback.
Speaker:I can look at the whole
Speaker:screen and I can see it live too.
Speaker:If I'm watching it as they answer,
Speaker:I can see if it gets right or wrong.
Speaker:So I can see where my kids are doing
Speaker:and what they're working on
Speaker:and I can get an overall feel.
Speaker:Do they understand this
Speaker:concept or not right away?
Speaker:So they have paid version?
Speaker:Yeah, they have a free
Speaker:version with it just,
Speaker:it limits the types of
Speaker:questions, multiple choice.
Speaker:And I forgot to mention,
Speaker:I pay $15 a month for it.
Speaker:I cancel it during the summer,
Speaker:so I don't pay it for the summertime,
Speaker:but then I bring it back
Speaker:up again for the thing.
Speaker:So I pay what, $150 a year for it
Speaker:and it's well worth my $15.
Speaker:My school does not pay
Speaker:for it for me at all,
Speaker:but $15 for all the time
Speaker:that it saves me a month
Speaker:is well worth it.
Speaker:I was introduced to
Speaker:Go Formative years ago,
Speaker:thanks to Meredith White.
Speaker:And just a very low
Speaker:prep, but yet meaningful way
Speaker:to engage students is to have
Speaker:the drawing tools available.
Speaker:So having an open one, two,
Speaker:and three as an exit ticket,
Speaker:or as a warmup, that way the students
Speaker:have to draw, right?
Speaker:What it is that they hear you share.
Speaker:And it's just an easy
Speaker:way that you can use it.
Speaker:I would have to look
Speaker:into whether it's the paid
Speaker:or not paid capabilities.
Speaker:I think the draw is paid.
Speaker:I think it's very limited.
Speaker:I think it's like true
Speaker:and false, multiple choice
Speaker:are the ones that are the free ones.
Speaker:But I said $15 is so much the drawing.
Speaker:I didn't even think about
Speaker:that, but that is great.
Speaker:I even do conversations I'll do.
Speaker:So I'll record, like our
Speaker:final exam is coming up
Speaker:on Wednesday.
Speaker:And so I've recorded,
Speaker:they have to answer six
Speaker:out of the 10 questions
Speaker:that we did, and it's random.
Speaker:So I already used chat
Speaker:GPT to randomize my kits.
Speaker:So I've got them
Speaker:randomized and they have to answer
Speaker:six out of the 10 questions.
Speaker:So I said, please give
Speaker:the number of the question.
Speaker:Each one has to have six of them.
Speaker:So give them that, so
Speaker:it's all randomized.
Speaker:I record the question in Spanish,
Speaker:and then they have to record the answer.
Speaker:So it is like a
Speaker:conversation, but I'm not having to pull
Speaker:all the kids up and doing it that way
Speaker:where I can't actually
Speaker:monitor my kids doing the test
Speaker:at the same time.
Speaker:So this way they can do
Speaker:this, they can record it.
Speaker:Everybody's got different questions.
Speaker:They are hearing the
Speaker:question, they're not reading it.
Speaker:So it's actually a conversation.
Speaker:They're hearing the
Speaker:question, no textual cues,
Speaker:and then they have to answer it,
Speaker:they have to record the
Speaker:audio, and I can go back.
Speaker:So if a kid goes, why did
Speaker:I get this on the rubric?
Speaker:I don't understand.
Speaker:Well, how am I gonna remember?
Speaker:It was like, they're
Speaker:asking me about it a week later.
Speaker:So I can go back and we
Speaker:can listen to it again.
Speaker:I can say, this is what the thing was,
Speaker:that if a parent
Speaker:questions or administrator,
Speaker:I have it all recorded.
Speaker:So it works really, really well that way.
Speaker:And I'm telling you, $15
Speaker:a month is so worth it.
Speaker:In fact, let me just see, formative,
Speaker:let me see what they tell
Speaker:us about the free versus the
Speaker:plans, yes.
Speaker:And then do you convert that to your LMS
Speaker:because we're Canvas?
Speaker:I don't, we don't, we're backwards.
Speaker:We have, some teachers
Speaker:use Google Classroom,
Speaker:some teachers use Canvas,
Speaker:but our grades go
Speaker:into what's called Aries.
Speaker:So, and they don't
Speaker:all talk to each other.
Speaker:Canvas will talk to Aries.
Speaker:And there is a plugin
Speaker:that you can get for Chrome
Speaker:that will take your formative grades
Speaker:and put them into Aries.
Speaker:So I pay for that too.
Speaker:I think it's like $30 a year.
Speaker:And I do it that way to help that.
Speaker:That works really, really well for
Speaker:putting the grades in
Speaker:there, but normally it doesn't.
Speaker:But even before my old
Speaker:school, there was no conversion.
Speaker:I had to type it in manually.
Speaker:It wasn't too hard.
Speaker:I would have, you know, on my phone,
Speaker:I would see the grades and
Speaker:I would just copy the grades
Speaker:manually, type them in on the computer.
Speaker:It worked really, really well.
Speaker:Okay, so here's the free one.
Speaker:The free one you get multiple choice,
Speaker:multiple selection, short answer,
Speaker:free response, true or
Speaker:false, and you do get the drawing.
Speaker:So for the free one,
Speaker:but you don't get audio,
Speaker:you can't record
Speaker:something and put audio in there.
Speaker:You can't, but you can
Speaker:embed, put images, slides, text,
Speaker:and video you can put in there.
Speaker:So you can kind of get around the audio.
Speaker:If you just wanted to
Speaker:record a video with sound,
Speaker:you can do that in there.
Speaker:And it will do some auto grading for you.
Speaker:So it works pretty well.
Speaker:But the paid one is where I'm at
Speaker:and I get all the features
Speaker:except for the high end features.
Speaker:Common assessments we don't get
Speaker:and we don't get the IP features
Speaker:where you can put in
Speaker:different levels for each kid.
Speaker:So there are different
Speaker:accommodations you can't put in there.
Speaker:I get around the common assessments
Speaker:because you can copy a
Speaker:link to your assessment
Speaker:and then give it to your
Speaker:front, your other teachers
Speaker:and then they copy it
Speaker:and it will copy right into their plan.
Speaker:So that's how we get around the common.
Speaker:One of us will write it
Speaker:and then the other ones
Speaker:will just share the link
Speaker:and it adds it to our own.
Speaker:But I would like the accommodation ones
Speaker:but it's prohibitively
Speaker:expensive for me to pay into that.
Speaker:It's gotta be a school
Speaker:or a district license
Speaker:so it's not worth it to me.
Speaker:So it's one of the
Speaker:things I give up on there
Speaker:but everything else for my $15 a month,
Speaker:and they say it's $13 a
Speaker:month if you pay it annually.
Speaker:I pay $15 a month and just
Speaker:cancel it for two months.
Speaker:And it works out well.
Speaker:And I'm telling you, I absolutely love
Speaker:this particular app.
Speaker:It has saved my life countless.
Speaker:It's probably my number one followed.
Speaker:My number two would be chat GPT.
Speaker:That's interesting.
Speaker:I feel like my teacher books go to Padlet
Speaker:which has some similar capabilities
Speaker:but not on that individual scale
Speaker:that you were sharing with GoFormative.
Speaker:So that's really interesting.
Speaker:Yeah, I just look,
Speaker:because I get the feedback
Speaker:and I catch it to standards.
Speaker:It's got the California standards
Speaker:or I used to work in an IB school,
Speaker:the IB standards plus the actual ones.
Speaker:So whatever ones you are tied to,
Speaker:you can attach the
Speaker:standards and I can go and look.
Speaker:And so I can see exactly which stands.
Speaker:The only standard that I
Speaker:don't have it usually do
Speaker:except on the final
Speaker:exam is the writing one.
Speaker:Because I don't usually
Speaker:have them write normally
Speaker:on a computer.
Speaker:I only do it on the final exam part
Speaker:but you can have it put the accents in.
Speaker:It'll have, you can click it on
Speaker:so it does the accents for
Speaker:them that they, not for them
Speaker:but they have the little
Speaker:buttons to click the letters
Speaker:for the accent marks, the
Speaker:upside down question marks
Speaker:and such like that.
Speaker:So that works well for them.
Speaker:But every other standard,
Speaker:listening, reading, speaking,
Speaker:everything but the writing one,
Speaker:I have multiple
Speaker:assessments all on my formative.
Speaker:And I can look at it for
Speaker:anybody, any kid, any class.
Speaker:It works just wonderful.
Speaker:And what's even better is,
Speaker:oh my gosh, it saves them.
Speaker:So I don't have to
Speaker:recreate them year after year
Speaker:after year.
Speaker:So I have all, I might not use every
Speaker:assessment every year
Speaker:but I can go back, oh, I had an
Speaker:assessment about that
Speaker:like seven years ago.
Speaker:Here it is.
Speaker:I can pull it right
Speaker:back up, right back up.
Speaker:So I love it.
Speaker:And I do my listening, not my quizzes.
Speaker:My listening quizzes,
Speaker:they hear it with me.
Speaker:I play it loud.
Speaker:I record them anyway, but I play them.
Speaker:I control them.
Speaker:But on their listening
Speaker:practices that we do classwork on,
Speaker:I'll record it just
Speaker:like I do for my quizzes
Speaker:but I'll embed it into the activity.
Speaker:So whenever they do the activity,
Speaker:they have access to the
Speaker:audio right then and there.
Speaker:So it really helps out there.
Speaker:So that's my really big go-to.
Speaker:I'm gonna have to look into that one.
Speaker:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker:Cause our school years ago,
Speaker:we are always trying to find ways
Speaker:to simplify the grading process.
Speaker:Cause Scantron machines went out,
Speaker:the schools don't buy
Speaker:the Scantron machines.
Speaker:So we found one that did the,
Speaker:it was the, it made the Scantron bubbles
Speaker:and you bubbled them in
Speaker:and then you took a picture on your phone
Speaker:and then you took a picture,
Speaker:you scanned on your
Speaker:phone all the kids answers
Speaker:and it would grade them right away.
Speaker:But it was still cumbersome
Speaker:cause sometimes they wouldn't scan right
Speaker:and you have to do it two or three times
Speaker:for it would work.
Speaker:Then we found another one that we liked
Speaker:that was free and it
Speaker:worked a little bit better
Speaker:than the paid one.
Speaker:But then when we found
Speaker:formative as a school,
Speaker:we found formative,
Speaker:it used to be called Go Formative,
Speaker:now it's just called formative.
Speaker:That was the winner.
Speaker:That absolutely
Speaker:positively was the winner.
Speaker:I will tell you
Speaker:though, two things I noticed.
Speaker:If you type text in as
Speaker:text, like a story reading,
Speaker:they will copy and paste
Speaker:it and try to translate it.
Speaker:So what we've done is we've
Speaker:typed it up on a Google doc,
Speaker:then taken a screenshot of it
Speaker:and added it as an
Speaker:image rather than text.
Speaker:So then they can't copy and paste
Speaker:cause that was a
Speaker:problem with using Google,
Speaker:Google Forms as a quiz,
Speaker:cause kids could take that stuff
Speaker:and some kids were savvy enough to look,
Speaker:they could go in behind the form
Speaker:and see the answers in the
Speaker:programming language behind it.
Speaker:And other kids would just
Speaker:copy and paste this stuff
Speaker:into Google Translate
Speaker:and get the translation.
Speaker:So we found this way to work much better
Speaker:by taking images of that
Speaker:type of thing on tests.
Speaker:So they really couldn't
Speaker:do that translation piece.
Speaker:It worked really, really well that way.
Speaker:Anybody have any tech full pause,
Speaker:any tech pieces that they've
Speaker:tried or apps they've tried?
Speaker:That absolutely they said,
Speaker:nope, does not work for me.
Speaker:We're dabbling right
Speaker:now with virtual reality.
Speaker:Head sets, but we've
Speaker:not yet found a program
Speaker:that is easy for the students to use,
Speaker:but we're still, we're kind
Speaker:of in that experimental phase
Speaker:in my district.
Speaker:So it's exciting to
Speaker:see these technologies
Speaker:and have access to them in the classroom.
Speaker:But as you had shared, it's really,
Speaker:it's hard to go forward,
Speaker:not trusting that the
Speaker:technology is gonna work
Speaker:in the way that you need it to work
Speaker:in the moment with all of
Speaker:the teenagers staring at you.
Speaker:So we're dipping our toe right now
Speaker:in the virtual reality waters.
Speaker:And I'm excited to see how
Speaker:this can be an immersive language
Speaker:experience for the
Speaker:students to really hopefully use
Speaker:the language in a real life setting.
Speaker:Immerse me as a tool
Speaker:that we had dabbled with
Speaker:a few years ago before we
Speaker:had access to the VR headsets.
Speaker:So I'm curious to see
Speaker:if that's maybe a road
Speaker:that we're gonna go down,
Speaker:but don't know yet, we'll see.
Speaker:Yeah, I had that,
Speaker:that no tech was working,
Speaker:kids staring at me
Speaker:just happened last week.
Speaker:So that was the disaster.
Speaker:Back in the day,
Speaker:probably what 10 years ago,
Speaker:we delved into, it's
Speaker:not anywhere near as good
Speaker:as what we can do now with virtual,
Speaker:but we used Google cardboard,
Speaker:where you can make
Speaker:your own little glasses
Speaker:and you stuck your phone in them.
Speaker:And we didn't use it.
Speaker:It wasn't really good
Speaker:for language type stuff,
Speaker:but we used it for
Speaker:culture, like to explore a city.
Speaker:So we would put in like Madrid or Paris
Speaker:or whatever city you want them to explore
Speaker:and they could go through and explore.
Speaker:And I just remember one
Speaker:kid, it was hilarious.
Speaker:He was off task and
Speaker:he looked up manatees.
Speaker:And so he was watching
Speaker:some video with a manatee
Speaker:and all of a sudden, I
Speaker:guess a manatee came from over
Speaker:his shoulder and he wasn't
Speaker:expecting it to come from
Speaker:over his shoulder.
Speaker:And he jumped and screamed
Speaker:like a baby and fell over
Speaker:out of his chair.
Speaker:And we were all laughing like,
Speaker:what made you jump like that?
Speaker:We're supposed to be
Speaker:looking at Barcelona.
Speaker:What were you doing?
Speaker:He's like, this
Speaker:manatee came over my shoulder
Speaker:and I wasn't expecting it.
Speaker:It was so big.
Speaker:And I just jumped.
Speaker:And we just laughed and laughed.
Speaker:And then I bought a stuffed
Speaker:manatee for the next class
Speaker:and on Amazon.
Speaker:And we had fun with that story.
Speaker:So it was a fun little thing.
Speaker:What about you, Amina?
Speaker:Well, our school is
Speaker:subscribing to Magic School.
Speaker:So we've been watching videos
Speaker:and looking at Magic School.
Speaker:It's a form of AI and
Speaker:you can put stuff in there.
Speaker:I just feel that it's not for languages.
Speaker:When you try and put the
Speaker:prompt in and you're like,
Speaker:they're novice level, the
Speaker:things that they're like,
Speaker:oh yeah, let have them try this.
Speaker:And it's like, yeah,
Speaker:that's way, way to advance
Speaker:for the students that I have right now.
Speaker:And it's taken up a lot
Speaker:of my time to research
Speaker:and look and watch the
Speaker:training videos that we have.
Speaker:And I'm just like, okay, this is it.
Speaker:I go, no, we're just gonna stick with
Speaker:CoPilot for right now.
Speaker:I don't have the time to
Speaker:delve into the Magic School.
Speaker:Although it's supposed
Speaker:to be school friendly.
Speaker:Yeah, they just, I can't
Speaker:remember which one they,
Speaker:we just kind of training on one,
Speaker:starts with a B, I can't remember.
Speaker:It was a school friendly AI.
Speaker:I can't remember what it was.
Speaker:Yes, Brisk, that's the one.
Speaker:Yeah, Brisk, I haven't
Speaker:really tried much then.
Speaker:Yeah, I was gonna share
Speaker:Amina that absolutely like
Speaker:keep living in that CoPilot lane.
Speaker:I feel as if when you
Speaker:get really good at using
Speaker:these large language
Speaker:models and you're comfortable,
Speaker:it's hard to then
Speaker:jump and then essentially
Speaker:transfer those same skills
Speaker:and then learn a new platform.
Speaker:But Brisk teaching,
Speaker:what's cool about it is
Speaker:it's a Chrome extension
Speaker:that follows you around.
Speaker:So no matter where you are online,
Speaker:you can create resources
Speaker:based on whatever Brisk
Speaker:is looking at that's on your screen.
Speaker:And a cool feature that I
Speaker:stumbled upon this summer
Speaker:with Brisk is the podcast creator.
Speaker:So it can take, let's
Speaker:say you have a story
Speaker:that you created on a Google
Speaker:Document or a Google Slideshow.
Speaker:It can take the content from that story
Speaker:and then create a
Speaker:podcast of one to two minutes
Speaker:between two people and
Speaker:then you can edit the podcast.
Speaker:So when you were saying before,
Speaker:like sometimes it
Speaker:doesn't give you what you want,
Speaker:that's where we as the teachers, right,
Speaker:sitting in the driver's
Speaker:seat, we can use the AI,
Speaker:Scott and I were
Speaker:chatting before about this
Speaker:as our teaching assistant,
Speaker:but then ultimately our eyes
Speaker:and our thoughts are going to make tweaks
Speaker:and modifications knowing
Speaker:the learners in our space.
Speaker:And if we need to change certain words
Speaker:or make it even more
Speaker:comprehensible, right,
Speaker:but at least giving us
Speaker:like a nice first draft
Speaker:of what we're creating,
Speaker:I always appreciate that.
Speaker:But Brisk teaching is one of these,
Speaker:like I call them Swiss
Speaker:Army Knives for teachers
Speaker:because it can do so
Speaker:many things under one login.
Speaker:Yes, Notebook LM is another one.
Speaker:I'm actually doing a
Speaker:lunch and learn tomorrow
Speaker:with my colleagues all about Notebook LM
Speaker:and the many capabilities that it has.
Speaker:In addition to creating podcasts,
Speaker:they can create
Speaker:slideshows, video overviews,
Speaker:it can create a mind map for you,
Speaker:which can serve as an infographic
Speaker:and it can create infographics too,
Speaker:depending on how you prompt it.
Speaker:So Notebook LM, you can
Speaker:upload up to 300 sources now
Speaker:and they can be links,
Speaker:it can be things that
Speaker:you already have in Google,
Speaker:but Notebook LM is really, really cool
Speaker:also then sharing it within your
Speaker:community of learners.
Speaker:Students can then access the Notebook
Speaker:and interact with it and
Speaker:learn from whatever content
Speaker:you've uploaded into it.
Speaker:So you really do determine
Speaker:the student's learning journey
Speaker:through what's put into Notebook LM,
Speaker:which is really cool.
Speaker:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker:And I'm gonna give you
Speaker:another idea too, Amina.
Speaker:I have found that all
Speaker:of the language models,
Speaker:whether it be Google
Speaker:or Copilot or Chat GPT,
Speaker:or I just lost what
Speaker:the other one is called,
Speaker:the big competitor of Chat GPT
Speaker:and I forgot what they call it.
Speaker:But they don't-- Claude.
Speaker:Claude, that's the one, yeah.
Speaker:I'm horrible with names
Speaker:and I'm getting older.
Speaker:I mean, I even forget brand names.
Speaker:I'm like, I drink Pepsi all the time,
Speaker:but sometimes I'll
Speaker:forget what it's called.
Speaker:I mean, I don't know,
Speaker:my brain is working.
Speaker:I blame COVID.
Speaker:So anyway, they don't
Speaker:understand the actful
Speaker:delimitations of the
Speaker:different degrees of proficiency.
Speaker:They understand so much
Speaker:better the European ones.
Speaker:And actually I prefer
Speaker:the European ones anyways.
Speaker:So I tell them to do,
Speaker:I need an A1 or an A2,
Speaker:which is your novice.
Speaker:I'd B1 or a B2, which is your mid.
Speaker:And then a C1 or a C2,
Speaker:which is your advanced.
Speaker:So that's what I use and it
Speaker:comes out a lot more accurate.
Speaker:So when you're using those other tools
Speaker:and they say it's a
Speaker:novice and it ain't a novice,
Speaker:you tell it, I always tell mine and go,
Speaker:I need mine to be a level A1 student
Speaker:with no language experiences,
Speaker:like at the beginning of the school year.
Speaker:So they really
Speaker:simplify it and keep it down.
Speaker:Then I read through it and I go,
Speaker:this is still way too difficult.
Speaker:I need it dumbed down even
Speaker:more so that they'll do that.
Speaker:I have found that works
Speaker:out a little bit better
Speaker:than saying novice mid,
Speaker:novice low, novice high.
Speaker:I don't think it understands,
Speaker:it's not programmed to
Speaker:look at the actual standards,
Speaker:but the European framework,
Speaker:which I like so much better.
Speaker:It doesn't have as much nuance in it
Speaker:because what I always
Speaker:laugh in where it says,
Speaker:novice low, they can copy down words.
Speaker:One novice low of any
Speaker:language that I can see on the board.
Speaker:I might not put the Chinese characters
Speaker:in the right stroke order,
Speaker:but I can make my picture
Speaker:look just like that character.
Speaker:So I'm technically novice
Speaker:low in writing for Mandarin,
Speaker:Russian, any of them that I can copy.
Speaker:And I don't think that's
Speaker:as accurate of a depiction
Speaker:because is that really what we wanna use
Speaker:as a novice low they can copy?
Speaker:Because anybody can do that.
Speaker:The European framework, I
Speaker:think is a little bit more,
Speaker:it's a little bit more descriptive
Speaker:and it's a little bit more progressive.
Speaker:And I don't think they
Speaker:stay at the intermediate
Speaker:as long as they do in the actful one.
Speaker:That one's like the stagnant one.
Speaker:You stay in intermediate for years
Speaker:before you get out of intermediate.
Speaker:And I think the ABC is simpler.
Speaker:It's simpler for kids to understand.
Speaker:It's simpler for teachers to understand.
Speaker:And it's simpler to
Speaker:delineate when they move
Speaker:from one to the next.
Speaker:So I like that one.
Speaker:And I find that AI
Speaker:understands that one a lot better.
Speaker:Do you have the same experience, Noemi?
Speaker:So with the custom GPTs,
Speaker:I've been training it using
Speaker:the actful proficiency levels
Speaker:and also my New Jersey state standards.
Speaker:So I've found that it
Speaker:does a pretty good job
Speaker:with understanding I would like this
Speaker:at the novice mid level,
Speaker:or my students are currently
Speaker:at the intermediate low,
Speaker:intermediate mid level.
Speaker:When I first started using chat GPT,
Speaker:I was referencing those European models
Speaker:to make sure that I had an alignment
Speaker:between what the model really
Speaker:understood to be proficiency.
Speaker:But I think that in
Speaker:designing these custom GPTs
Speaker:and training them with
Speaker:these specific standards,
Speaker:these specific proficiency levels,
Speaker:these are the documents
Speaker:that I want you to reference
Speaker:first and foremost,
Speaker:before you go out into the worldwide web
Speaker:to like determine
Speaker:what you're gonna create.
Speaker:I also find, and I
Speaker:mean, maybe this is just me,
Speaker:but chat GPT does a
Speaker:really good job with emojis
Speaker:and to make things that the
Speaker:students are interpreting,
Speaker:whether that's
Speaker:something that they're reading.
Speaker:If it's a question that they're reading,
Speaker:if I have sentence starters for them,
Speaker:if I have a short
Speaker:story that they're reading
Speaker:as a class community,
Speaker:I find that the emojis
Speaker:that it'll just insert
Speaker:makes the text even more comprehensible,
Speaker:which is just like a simple
Speaker:little like just add emojis,
Speaker:and then all of a sudden
Speaker:it breaks it down even more
Speaker:for the kids and gives
Speaker:them that additional support.
Speaker:And I don't know why.
Speaker:I consider myself
Speaker:pretty proficient in chat GPT
Speaker:and I never even dawned on me.
Speaker:I upload other things to chat GPT,
Speaker:but never dawned on me to actually upload
Speaker:the actual standards to chat GPT.
Speaker:Never thought of that.
Speaker:I would have thought being
Speaker:based in the United States
Speaker:that that's where it would
Speaker:have gotten its language model
Speaker:for that aspect of it from,
Speaker:but I never even thought of doing that.
Speaker:I just used the A1, A2, C1, C2.
Speaker:You are in control, right?
Speaker:Like you are
Speaker:determining who or how it acts
Speaker:and what it understands
Speaker:based on you training it.
Speaker:So that's like, I've taken CI articles
Speaker:or CI based presentations
Speaker:and added it behind the scenes.
Speaker:So then that way it has
Speaker:additional reference points
Speaker:because as we were saying to before,
Speaker:it's less about the tool,
Speaker:it's more about the user.
Speaker:So the user is really the one determining
Speaker:how CI friendly or how ADI
Speaker:based the technology can be
Speaker:based on what you want it to understand.
Speaker:Absolutely, and I upload everything else.
Speaker:I put all kinds of stuff in there.
Speaker:And I just never thought to put that
Speaker:particular thing in there.
Speaker:Noemi and I were talking
Speaker:before that we started today
Speaker:and I upload pictures of things and
Speaker:screenshots of things
Speaker:and all different
Speaker:kinds of things in there
Speaker:to get what I want out of chat GPT.
Speaker:I just never thought about,
Speaker:something's just escape you.
Speaker:And that was one,
Speaker:uploading the actual
Speaker:standards would have been
Speaker:a really good thing in there.
Speaker:I'm not a real fan of
Speaker:the California standards.
Speaker:So I don't usually do those ones,
Speaker:but California thinks it knows better.
Speaker:I mean, when the national
Speaker:standards first came out,
Speaker:we completely objected to them and said,
Speaker:no, we're not doing them.
Speaker:We came up with our own.
Speaker:And then I'm like, why would
Speaker:you want to reinvent the wheel?
Speaker:And so then they did it,
Speaker:we revised them about
Speaker:what, seven, eight years ago.
Speaker:And they kind of took
Speaker:some from the national,
Speaker:but then they added other ones.
Speaker:They have grammar standards and
Speaker:vocabulary standards.
Speaker:And I'm like, that was the whole thing
Speaker:that Actful is trying to
Speaker:get away from that you can,
Speaker:the standards shouldn't
Speaker:apply to a specific textbook
Speaker:or a specific curriculum.
Speaker:It should be very generic and,
Speaker:but they've got all
Speaker:the different vocab lists
Speaker:that you're supposed to cover
Speaker:and stuff like that they put in there.
Speaker:And you can use New Jersey's,
Speaker:New Jersey's are good.
Speaker:They don't subscribe to
Speaker:any particular textbook
Speaker:and they're modeled off of Actful.
Speaker:Yeah, most states model after Actful.
Speaker:California has to be
Speaker:different, has to be different.
Speaker:So I usually use the Actful or the IB
Speaker:because I used to teach an IB school.
Speaker:So the IB ones worked really well too.
Speaker:And IB got better at theirs.
Speaker:Cause the first time they did them,
Speaker:when I first started
Speaker:at IB, they were really,
Speaker:they were vocabulary and all these
Speaker:different kinds of based.
Speaker:And then they just went
Speaker:down to four standards,
Speaker:listening, reading,
Speaker:speaking, and writing, that's it.
Speaker:So that made it much more logical
Speaker:when they switched over to that.
Speaker:That was probably
Speaker:maybe five, six years ago
Speaker:when they switched that one.
Speaker:So that made it much more better.
Speaker:So much more better.
Speaker:That's my English really for
Speaker:speaking for us this morning.
Speaker:But yeah, that worked
Speaker:out really well for me.
Speaker:Any other favorite tech
Speaker:apps that you like or use?
Speaker:If I can share, I have a few, of course,
Speaker:but another one that I so appreciate
Speaker:is it lives in the land of Google Gemini.
Speaker:So if you are using Google Gemini,
Speaker:there's a gem that Google
Speaker:designed called the Storybook gem.
Speaker:So I've done it where,
Speaker:and this is gonna sound
Speaker:a little like too techy.
Speaker:So I apologize, but I've created a story
Speaker:or I've used a story,
Speaker:let's say I've
Speaker:already written or designed
Speaker:and has worked well with my students
Speaker:based on the
Speaker:structures that I want repeated.
Speaker:And then I've popped
Speaker:it into Gemini Storybook
Speaker:and it creates this narrated Storybook
Speaker:for my kids to view.
Speaker:So we're able to do the
Speaker:pre-reading, during reading,
Speaker:after reading strategies
Speaker:based on that
Speaker:potential comprehensible text.
Speaker:And I just, as we were
Speaker:chatting a little bit before
Speaker:about how neat it is that
Speaker:you have any image come to life
Speaker:based on what you're looking for.
Speaker:So in this case, the
Speaker:fact that in no time at all,
Speaker:Gemini Storybook
Speaker:created this beautifully,
Speaker:visual representation of
Speaker:this story that has now,
Speaker:it can read to the, so
Speaker:the text comes to life
Speaker:where it gets read to the students,
Speaker:which is the audio component.
Speaker:So you have the
Speaker:audio, you have the visual,
Speaker:you have the written story,
Speaker:and then you can
Speaker:download it as a PDF as well.
Speaker:So if you wanted the
Speaker:students to actually have the story
Speaker:in their hands, you can download it,
Speaker:print it as a PDF file, which is nice.
Speaker:So this is one of those
Speaker:ones where it didn't exist
Speaker:a few months ago and now that it does,
Speaker:I so appreciate that it's
Speaker:so easy to create stories
Speaker:and it's free for anyone
Speaker:who uses Google Gemini.
Speaker:That's awesome, awesome.
Speaker:Awesome, I didn't know
Speaker:about that particular one,
Speaker:but there's so many uses
Speaker:that AI can make our job
Speaker:so much easier and Naomi and I were
Speaker:talking about it in the,
Speaker:I use it as a teaching assistant.
Speaker:So coming up with questions,
Speaker:because I might not
Speaker:think of all the questions
Speaker:I could possibly have.
Speaker:So I'll come up with, it'll
Speaker:come up with the questions.
Speaker:I need some DOK3
Speaker:questions, it'll come up with that.
Speaker:I need some inference questions.
Speaker:It'll come up with that.
Speaker:Reflection questions, sometimes like,
Speaker:my reflection
Speaker:questions get very repetitive
Speaker:and I want something else.
Speaker:So I'll ask it to give me
Speaker:some reflection questions
Speaker:or some exit tickets
Speaker:that I can do that are fun
Speaker:and still give me the
Speaker:information that I want.
Speaker:Brainstorming, we talked about using it
Speaker:to brainstorm things.
Speaker:How can I come up with
Speaker:an extension activity
Speaker:for this particular activity?
Speaker:What can I do for that?
Speaker:Put in different problems.
Speaker:I have done where I've had kids,
Speaker:I've got behavior issues
Speaker:that I'm having troubles with
Speaker:and I'll put them into the chat GPT and
Speaker:ask for suggestions.
Speaker:I've got this kid who I
Speaker:asked to answer a question.
Speaker:They refused.
Speaker:They say, I'm not answering questions,
Speaker:I'm not speaking out loud.
Speaker:I've got a kid, the same kid, won't sit
Speaker:in their assigned seat.
Speaker:I've got a kid who refuses to do work.
Speaker:What can I do to help engage them
Speaker:and bring them back into the classroom?
Speaker:And it gives me some ideas.
Speaker:And sometimes they'll give me the ideas,
Speaker:they're like, you
Speaker:already know about that.
Speaker:Yeah, I've already done those.
Speaker:I've already done that.
Speaker:I'll say, I've done
Speaker:one, three, five, and seven
Speaker:that you gave me, Liz, can
Speaker:you give me some more on that?
Speaker:Or I'll put in that I've
Speaker:tried this, this, and that,
Speaker:and it will give me
Speaker:some other ideas on that.
Speaker:Or we use PBIS at our school.
Speaker:I'll ask for some PBIS type activities
Speaker:that will help me brainstorm that.
Speaker:And another thing I talked with Noemi
Speaker:that I learned about
Speaker:just about two weeks ago
Speaker:and it's the most amazing thing ever
Speaker:is using chat GPT or
Speaker:any type of AI chatbot
Speaker:to do seating assignments.
Speaker:So I upload a picture of
Speaker:my seating arrangement.
Speaker:I upload the first name only
Speaker:of all my kids in the class.
Speaker:And then I say, okay,
Speaker:Johnny can't sit next to Sarah.
Speaker:Leo needs to be near
Speaker:the front of the room
Speaker:because he's got poor eyesight.
Speaker:Matthew needs to be
Speaker:near me because of his IEP.
Speaker:And I put all of this stuff in there
Speaker:and then I hit enter
Speaker:and it scrambles them up
Speaker:and puts them in the right spot.
Speaker:And it does a much better
Speaker:way because I invariably,
Speaker:I have these things
Speaker:in the back of my mind.
Speaker:I think I made them
Speaker:all pretty on my screen.
Speaker:And then I print out my
Speaker:sheet and I put my kids out there
Speaker:and like, oh crap, how did
Speaker:I not see that, that, that,
Speaker:but chat GPT does a much better job.
Speaker:I even had an impossible
Speaker:one because I have 18 kids,
Speaker:three boys, I mean, sorry,
Speaker:three girls, the rest are boys.
Speaker:And all the boys know each other.
Speaker:They are all good friends.
Speaker:They grew up all together.
Speaker:So they've been together for nine years.
Speaker:What the heck am I gonna
Speaker:do to keep the chatter down
Speaker:and the effectiveness?
Speaker:And it gave me some ideas
Speaker:and it put things around
Speaker:and it found combinations that work.
Speaker:Cause I would say, yeah, Max
Speaker:can't really sit next to Eddie.
Speaker:That doesn't work.
Speaker:And so then it would
Speaker:rearrange the list again.
Speaker:And it really did a
Speaker:really, really, really good job
Speaker:with that.
Speaker:So that's another great
Speaker:way to be able to use AI
Speaker:in ways we didn't
Speaker:even think about before.
Speaker:What about you, Amina?
Speaker:I like Copilot.
Speaker:It remembers, I guess
Speaker:because our school was Microsoft.
Speaker:So it remembers things that I did.
Speaker:And I was like, oh crap,
Speaker:what was that thing that I took?
Speaker:And then I can look on
Speaker:the left and it has a list
Speaker:of things that I've
Speaker:done already with Copilot.
Speaker:So I can go back in and
Speaker:say, okay, let me tweak this.
Speaker:Let me tweak that.
Speaker:So I have used that.
Speaker:I really haven't
Speaker:dabbled with chat GPT a lot,
Speaker:but I do know one of my French
Speaker:colleagues, she loves it.
Speaker:So I don't know if
Speaker:she has the paid version
Speaker:or the free version, but she's a chat GPT
Speaker:and I do Copilot.
Speaker:So sometimes I come up
Speaker:with things that are similar,
Speaker:but sometimes it's
Speaker:like, ooh, yours is here
Speaker:and mine is over here.
Speaker:Yeah, I do chat GPT and
Speaker:I do pay for my chat GPT.
Speaker:And I don't use Google
Speaker:Gemini, although I have it
Speaker:just because I've trained
Speaker:chat GPT for so many years now
Speaker:and Google Gemini came out afterwards.
Speaker:And when it was Bart, it
Speaker:wasn't that good at the time.
Speaker:And so I've just got
Speaker:unlocked into chat GPT.
Speaker:It's kind of like the
Speaker:Android Apple thing.
Speaker:I'm Apple everything except for the phone
Speaker:because they blocked me from using it
Speaker:because they were on AT&T
Speaker:the first couple of years.
Speaker:You had to be on AT&T.
Speaker:I'm like, I am not going to AT&T.
Speaker:And so they lost me as a customer
Speaker:because now I got hooked onto Android
Speaker:and I'm not about to switch.
Speaker:So, you know, that kind of a thing.
Speaker:So I'm probably not
Speaker:gonna switch off chat GPT.
Speaker:I might add in Google.
Speaker:I am not a Microsoft person.
Speaker:We're a Microsoft school.
Speaker:We're a Google school
Speaker:on Microsoft computers.
Speaker:And I do not like Windows.
Speaker:I got out of Windows in 2004
Speaker:and I have not looked back.
Speaker:I am an Apple person.
Speaker:I can't get into the Windows at all.
Speaker:And it screws up my Mac use
Speaker:because I'm the control
Speaker:copy to the command thing.
Speaker:It messes me up all the time.
Speaker:So I won't be using Copilot,
Speaker:but I do need to go more into Gemini
Speaker:as Gemini is starting
Speaker:to catch up and surpass
Speaker:in some ways, chat GPT.
Speaker:I use Claude for a while too.
Speaker:Google is doing a lot
Speaker:of things in slideshows.
Speaker:If you use Google Slides,
Speaker:where on the right hand side,
Speaker:there should be some new capabilities
Speaker:that have popped up with image generation
Speaker:and even prompting it
Speaker:to create infographics
Speaker:or slides through their
Speaker:nano banana technology
Speaker:that's now embedded on the slideshow.
Speaker:So Google, I mean, we use Google Drive,
Speaker:we use Canvas like in Amina's district
Speaker:and then we have all Apple products.
Speaker:So like we also dabble
Speaker:in the menu tag layers.
Speaker:But I do wanna also just
Speaker:very quickly shout out Canva
Speaker:because it's a free tool.
Speaker:I use Canva.
Speaker:And with resource creation
Speaker:and also
Speaker:collaboration between the students
Speaker:and like sharing out
Speaker:templates for the kids to then use
Speaker:and create their own projects with,
Speaker:Canva has become another
Speaker:one of my like easy go-to,
Speaker:you know, modify this template,
Speaker:change it into the
Speaker:language that I'm looking for,
Speaker:creating game boards,
Speaker:creating this or that activities
Speaker:with my students, you know,
Speaker:to get them moving around
Speaker:the room, things like that.
Speaker:Canva has been a lifesaver
Speaker:because there's so much on there already
Speaker:and then I can either
Speaker:prompt it or tweak it.
Speaker:And I've so appreciated
Speaker:the many beautiful letters
Speaker:that is Canva.
Speaker:So I have like certain
Speaker:sessions with certain tech tools
Speaker:and Canva definitely wanna know.
Speaker:Yeah, Canva is the top one for me.
Speaker:Thanks for mentioning it
Speaker:because I would not have
Speaker:thought about mentioning it,
Speaker:but it's a tech tool I use all the time.
Speaker:Our school pays for Canva for the kids.
Speaker:So we have a district wide Canva account.
Speaker:And one of the things
Speaker:that we're trying to do
Speaker:cause kids know how to do Google Slides.
Speaker:And now I guess businesses are looking,
Speaker:don't use Google Slides as much.
Speaker:They're moving over to
Speaker:Canva to make their Slides.
Speaker:And so we're now forcing our
Speaker:kids in certain activities.
Speaker:When they're making Slides, they have to
Speaker:use Canva to do them
Speaker:so that they learn another tools.
Speaker:They already know how
Speaker:to use Google Slides.
Speaker:And it used to be PowerPoint
Speaker:the de facto one and it no
Speaker:longer is the de facto one.
Speaker:Google Slides has kind of gone that way.
Speaker:But now that Canva does so many things
Speaker:and businesses under one subscription
Speaker:can take care of making
Speaker:infographics, making ads,
Speaker:making videos, all that stuff
Speaker:under this one little subscription.
Speaker:And for teachers, it's 100% free.
Speaker:It really works well and
Speaker:kids can turn things into you
Speaker:and stuff like that,
Speaker:share things with you.
Speaker:It works really, really well for that.
Speaker:So that's another great tool.
Speaker:So they have a ton too
Speaker:of training resources
Speaker:on their library.
Speaker:So they have very
Speaker:specific Canva for education uses
Speaker:and the folks who never works at Canva,
Speaker:they're just the nicest.
Speaker:They're so generous with their resources
Speaker:and their creations.
Speaker:So.
Speaker:And a good thing about
Speaker:Canva too, they just,
Speaker:well, they purchased last year,
Speaker:but they just came out
Speaker:with now how they're using it.
Speaker:There used to be, because
Speaker:you have Adobe who does Adobe,
Speaker:it has Adobe Photoshop and Adobe InDesign
Speaker:and Adobe Illustrator to make, you know,
Speaker:photos, illustrations,
Speaker:and then text-based things
Speaker:like magazines and
Speaker:newspapers and stuff like that.
Speaker:Well, they bought Affinity years ago
Speaker:and now they came out just a month ago,
Speaker:they announced how they're using it.
Speaker:So now you get Affinity for
Speaker:free with a Canva account.
Speaker:You can use it with a free Canva account,
Speaker:but you don't get the AI
Speaker:abilities with the free.
Speaker:If you have paid
Speaker:Canva, you get the free AI,
Speaker:you get the AI
Speaker:abilities free in these two,
Speaker:these three apps.
Speaker:But you can use them to do things
Speaker:that you would do
Speaker:Photoshop for or do, you know,
Speaker:creating different illustrations for.
Speaker:You can use all those
Speaker:tools like Adobe does
Speaker:without having to pay for them
Speaker:because they are 100% free minus the AI.
Speaker:So if you want the AI,
Speaker:you have to pay for
Speaker:the Canva subscription.
Speaker:As teachers, we get the Canva
Speaker:subscription for free,
Speaker:so it's covered.
Speaker:But if you're not a
Speaker:teacher and you want to use it,
Speaker:Canva's not that expensive.
Speaker:It's not, I think it's like
Speaker:a hundred and some dollars
Speaker:a year and you get a lot for
Speaker:that hundred and some dollars
Speaker:a year and it does a lot of things
Speaker:that you don't even suspect it can do.
Speaker:Have you dabbled with
Speaker:Canva's AI capabilities
Speaker:where you can create
Speaker:games or flashcard activities
Speaker:for the students?
Speaker:Not so much, not so much,
Speaker:because I usually, I just have chat CPT
Speaker:and I usually use chat CPT,
Speaker:but I need to explore a little bit more
Speaker:to see what its capabilities are.
Speaker:It's very cool.
Speaker:That was something at the AgFo conference
Speaker:that I was chatting about in
Speaker:the digital learning lounge
Speaker:that Carmen was running.
Speaker:It was so nice to
Speaker:just spotlight Canva AI.
Speaker:And this is everything that you can do
Speaker:through Canva's AI capabilities.
Speaker:Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker:Not to dabble, that's one of my like,
Speaker:hey, go check this one out.
Speaker:Yeah, I need to do that.
Speaker:I need to spend some more time on that.
Speaker:I mean, I've used it a little
Speaker:bit trying to generate images
Speaker:and I wasn't, but it was before their
Speaker:latest announcement.
Speaker:So, and I wasn't really
Speaker:happy with the results I got
Speaker:in those particular instances.
Speaker:So I haven't really done a
Speaker:heck of a lot more with it,
Speaker:but I need to, cause they did,
Speaker:they said they upgraded it in
Speaker:their last big announcement.
Speaker:They came out, like I said, a month ago
Speaker:when they talked about
Speaker:adding affinity to their system
Speaker:and such like that.
Speaker:So I would highly
Speaker:recommend, yeah, using Canva
Speaker:for whatever you can possibly use it for.
Speaker:I use it to make worksheets
Speaker:or like my class syllabuses
Speaker:are all made in there, all that stuff.
Speaker:Cause I can make things look pretty
Speaker:and not just a Google doc, you know,
Speaker:make it look a little more attractive.
Speaker:So kids will actually
Speaker:like want to read it.
Speaker:Cause I make my syllabus is not linear.
Speaker:I did it kind of like the old fashioned
Speaker:Microsoft phone operating system
Speaker:with those little squares
Speaker:and they were different
Speaker:shapes and different sizes.
Speaker:So depending on how
Speaker:much text was in there,
Speaker:that determines the
Speaker:size of my little block
Speaker:that I put in there, like
Speaker:grading would be this block,
Speaker:but then I'll put like behavior and a
Speaker:block going vertical
Speaker:just to make it a little bit
Speaker:more fun, like a little bit.
Speaker:So they had to actually work a little bit
Speaker:to kind of read it, add
Speaker:some graphics in there,
Speaker:make it a little more infographic-y like,
Speaker:but Canva helped me do all of that,
Speaker:made it much so much
Speaker:easier than it would have
Speaker:because before I used Canva,
Speaker:this is a funny way to use Google Slides.
Speaker:I use Google Slides to
Speaker:make documents and workshop,
Speaker:worksheets and stuff like that.
Speaker:I would just make the
Speaker:slides eight and a half by 11
Speaker:because you could add graphics
Speaker:where you couldn't add
Speaker:graphics to Google docs.
Speaker:You couldn't really put in
Speaker:graphics and stuff like that.
Speaker:It wasn't meant to do that.
Speaker:And I was used to using
Speaker:whatever apples was called.
Speaker:I forgot what they called their system.
Speaker:He was using theirs, Apple Pages.
Speaker:Apple Pages, I could put graphics
Speaker:and move it around where I wanted.
Speaker:I couldn't do that in Google docs.
Speaker:So I found by cheating
Speaker:with the Google Slides,
Speaker:it worked really, really well.
Speaker:I made a lot of my stuff for
Speaker:many years off Google Slides,
Speaker:just changing it to
Speaker:eight and a half by 11
Speaker:and then working as if it were a page
Speaker:rather than a slide.
Speaker:And it worked so much better that way.
Speaker:Great ways to use the different tools.
Speaker:We're almost near the end.
Speaker:So I know I am horrible at this.
Speaker:So I'm gonna ask for
Speaker:suggestions from you guys.
Speaker:What do you think about screen fatigue?
Speaker:Cause I know I have my
Speaker:kids do almost everything
Speaker:on the screen that they're gonna turn in
Speaker:except for their quick writes.
Speaker:It's the only thing they
Speaker:turn in with paper with me.
Speaker:Everything else is on the screen.
Speaker:And with them being on
Speaker:the screen, on the phones,
Speaker:all the time or playing video games
Speaker:or now in my classroom on
Speaker:their Google Chromebooks,
Speaker:my kids definitely are
Speaker:having issues with screen time.
Speaker:So what do either of
Speaker:you do to limit that?
Speaker:Cause I am horrible,
Speaker:absolutely horrible at it.
Speaker:I have been using,
Speaker:I only use the screen
Speaker:really for when I'm absent
Speaker:and then everybody has to
Speaker:look on Canvas to get their work.
Speaker:So what I have been doing
Speaker:is creating Canvas slides.
Speaker:And if it's a story,
Speaker:then we read the story.
Speaker:And then I put them in groups
Speaker:and they have to act out the story.
Speaker:So they, for some reason
Speaker:this group this year are like,
Speaker:do we have another story to act out?
Speaker:I mean, that seems to be their go-to.
Speaker:And maybe Fridays will do Charla La
Speaker:and they love that.
Speaker:Where they, I give
Speaker:them a prompt, they draw
Speaker:and they pick out who the
Speaker:best is with the drawings.
Speaker:But I try and limit
Speaker:it because they do say
Speaker:that they're on their
Speaker:books, their laptops all day.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And see how I know.
Speaker:I also limit like Amina
Speaker:was sharing with really
Speaker:when I'm out having them
Speaker:go to Canvas using platforms
Speaker:like this is school to watch videos
Speaker:and get some feedback about their
Speaker:listening abilities.
Speaker:But I try to have
Speaker:anything that is class-based.
Speaker:Like we have a notebook
Speaker:that they have to write in.
Speaker:I have a folder with papers.
Speaker:They hang up their cell phones
Speaker:and the little like cell
Speaker:phone jail when they come in.
Speaker:But they do have
Speaker:access to the technology.
Speaker:We're very fortunate in my district.
Speaker:We've been one-to-one
Speaker:with MacBook errors for now,
Speaker:I think 15, 16 years, like for a while.
Speaker:So they're very well
Speaker:versed in using their devices
Speaker:for in particular like
Speaker:presentational writing tasks
Speaker:or presentational speaking
Speaker:if I want them to record
Speaker:themselves doing something.
Speaker:But the interpersonal and
Speaker:like just being with one another
Speaker:and the collaboration and drawing things
Speaker:or using their hands to visualize
Speaker:like what it is that we're learning or
Speaker:creating concept maps.
Speaker:Those are things that
Speaker:I try to get them away
Speaker:from the screen.
Speaker:I feel like I use the screen
Speaker:a lot to design everything.
Speaker:But I try to have lots of manipulatives
Speaker:or have things like the chat mats
Speaker:or something that's
Speaker:right in front of them.
Speaker:So it's easy to have that support
Speaker:and they don't have to look
Speaker:too far to get the language
Speaker:that they need given whatever the
Speaker:activity or task is.
Speaker:And I'm like you, I do have a chat mats
Speaker:and my kids aren't always on the screens,
Speaker:but whenever they do something,
Speaker:that's when they're on the screen.
Speaker:So we do our stories and stuff
Speaker:and they're looking at the TV
Speaker:that's how we do our projections,
Speaker:but they're not on their
Speaker:Chromebooks at that time.
Speaker:But when I do a followup activity
Speaker:that I want to do
Speaker:comprehension questions,
Speaker:you understand my story,
Speaker:they're on the screen doing that.
Speaker:I kind of went away from
Speaker:all that paper during COVID
Speaker:when we had no choice, but
Speaker:to get away from the paper,
Speaker:they couldn't turn in anything.
Speaker:And that was before I
Speaker:realized the power of formative
Speaker:cause I used to do all these weird things
Speaker:with Google classroom and Google slides
Speaker:to be able to make
Speaker:worksheets out of Google slides
Speaker:where they can drag and drop things.
Speaker:And it took me forever to
Speaker:make these types of things
Speaker:without realizing what
Speaker:formative could actually do
Speaker:and save me lots of time.
Speaker:But for me, except
Speaker:for their quick rights,
Speaker:anything they turn into me is digital.
Speaker:I tried the notebook thing,
Speaker:but then I got cumbersome
Speaker:when I wanted to go and check
Speaker:if they did their warmups,
Speaker:cause I would collect them.
Speaker:I wouldn't collect them every day
Speaker:cause it was a waste of my time to
Speaker:collect them every day,
Speaker:but I need to see how
Speaker:they doing their warmup.
Speaker:And so on a weekly basis,
Speaker:I would be checking on
Speaker:that type of a thing,
Speaker:but I wasn't getting the
Speaker:same kind of a feedback
Speaker:that I wanted, but here
Speaker:now with the formative,
Speaker:I get the instant
Speaker:feedback so I can see it live
Speaker:as they're doing it.
Speaker:So I get a little bit more.
Speaker:So I do for all the
Speaker:stuff they turn into me,
Speaker:they do it digitally,
Speaker:except for the quick rights.
Speaker:And I do have the chat mats.
Speaker:We play, you know, fly
Speaker:swatter with them a lot of times
Speaker:and they'll have that out there.
Speaker:The only thing they
Speaker:used our notebooks for
Speaker:is to copy down the vocabulary.
Speaker:Cause they do make them
Speaker:physically copy it down.
Speaker:They're like, why don't
Speaker:you just give us a handout?
Speaker:It goes, you'll never look at it.
Speaker:So this way you kind
Speaker:of get some, you know,
Speaker:eye hand coordination, you kind of,
Speaker:you're getting some
Speaker:interaction with that.
Speaker:But I just use a so much more digital.
Speaker:I save on that paper, but they,
Speaker:my kids don't complain about
Speaker:being on the computer so much,
Speaker:but I worry about that,
Speaker:that my kids are doing that.
Speaker:But I don't know if I want to go back
Speaker:to all that paper either.
Speaker:I also use whiteboards.
Speaker:Yes, I have whiteboards too.
Speaker:That's a good idea too.
Speaker:That's a good idea.
Speaker:The notebooks too, Scott.
Speaker:I do, I don't collect them,
Speaker:but I'll do notebook checks.
Speaker:So I'll ask the kids on,
Speaker:let's say December 14th,
Speaker:what was the answer to number two?
Speaker:And they'll have to, so I
Speaker:do that like about like one,
Speaker:separate two, three weeks, I'll do a
Speaker:notebook check quiz.
Speaker:And that's my way of just
Speaker:keeping them accountable.
Speaker:Because I don't want to collect anything.
Speaker:Because that's also
Speaker:really for some, right?
Speaker:For me to go through a
Speaker:hundred of those notebooks,
Speaker:like no thing, so then notebook check.
Speaker:You want to hear how I do that?
Speaker:They have to do their morphemes.
Speaker:I forgot their
Speaker:vocabulary and their morphemes,
Speaker:they write in there.
Speaker:So every four weeks, this is how I do
Speaker:that notebook check.
Speaker:Please take a picture
Speaker:of your page of morphemes
Speaker:and upload it to Formative.
Speaker:So they're back on
Speaker:the screen again though,
Speaker:but they're back on the screen again.
Speaker:But that's how I do the note,
Speaker:because I don't want to
Speaker:check those out either
Speaker:because they're a huge stack.
Speaker:And I don't want to deal with that.
Speaker:Where am I going to put that stack?
Speaker:Number one, is I gonna fit on my desk?
Speaker:And I've got, I don't
Speaker:know how many kids I have.
Speaker:It was just cumbersome.
Speaker:I know teachers
Speaker:who've done notebook checks
Speaker:and that's a major
Speaker:grade in their classroom.
Speaker:I'm like, I don't know what you're doing.
Speaker:Because it really doesn't,
Speaker:if it doesn't benefit
Speaker:language acquisition,
Speaker:I don't want to put it in the grade book.
Speaker:So, but I--
Speaker:It's an ideally upgrade.
Speaker:So it's just, it's a spot check.
Speaker:That's how I look at it.
Speaker:It doesn't
Speaker:necessarily, it doesn't hurt them,
Speaker:but it can help them.
Speaker:I guess that's what they need to do.
Speaker:But Amina was sharing about whiteboards
Speaker:and I'm all about to like
Speaker:index cards, post-it notes,
Speaker:the large sticky
Speaker:paper we use often as well
Speaker:for like gallery walks.
Speaker:So I do like them to use
Speaker:their hands as much as possible.
Speaker:And then to hopefully with the use of
Speaker:spontaneous language,
Speaker:keep building on those
Speaker:interpersonal skills.
Speaker:I had a conversation with a
Speaker:parent like a few weeks ago
Speaker:and they were like, do
Speaker:you guys talk in your class?
Speaker:I'm like all the time.
Speaker:Like I don't want them to not talk.
Speaker:Like we're always talking.
Speaker:We are the new class.
Speaker:That's just, that's the nature of it.
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:So go ahead, Amina, tell us
Speaker:more about your whiteboards
Speaker:and the things that you use
Speaker:that are not digitally based.
Speaker:So if we do a story, I might
Speaker:do true or false questions.
Speaker:We were doing descriptions.
Speaker:And so I purchased from
Speaker:Amazon the colored markers
Speaker:and then the kids would, I
Speaker:would read a prompt and say,
Speaker:draw all the dots and
Speaker:the kids would draw.
Speaker:And then they would look
Speaker:at each other's drawing
Speaker:and compare and they're like,
Speaker:oh, I thought Largo
Speaker:meant big and not long.
Speaker:And so they're learning from each other
Speaker:by looking at each other's pictures.
Speaker:So we've done that.
Speaker:The kids like that, we've
Speaker:done also with the other day,
Speaker:like you said, I wanted to do hands-on.
Speaker:So they had the vocabulary for a bit.
Speaker:So they all had a
Speaker:little, and thank you, copilot.
Speaker:So it came up with 20 descriptions.
Speaker:So they were to partner.
Speaker:So they had to read their description
Speaker:and their partner drew
Speaker:it and then they reversed
Speaker:and they did it.
Speaker:And then they would
Speaker:check their answers like,
Speaker:oh my goodness, look at this.
Speaker:This is how close you were.
Speaker:This is what you
Speaker:missed, that kind of thing.
Speaker:Check in to see if they had that.
Speaker:And so that was something that we did.
Speaker:And they kind of liked that.
Speaker:They were like, oh, this is different.
Speaker:Can we do more of this?
Speaker:Absolutely good ideas, good ideas.
Speaker:I have whiteboards, I don't use them.
Speaker:Like I should use them as,
Speaker:you always have these ideas,
Speaker:but then when you get into real class,
Speaker:you kind of like forget
Speaker:about all the ideas that you do.
Speaker:I write them all down.
Speaker:I have a list of all
Speaker:these different ideas.
Speaker:I learn from different people.
Speaker:Some stick, some don't.
Speaker:But I guess the bottom line
Speaker:is try and see what people,
Speaker:when people share things with you,
Speaker:try and see what works for you.
Speaker:And experiment,
Speaker:because that's where you're gonna find
Speaker:out what will stick.
Speaker:And I do need to use my whiteboard.
Speaker:I got a whole set of
Speaker:whiteboards in the back room.
Speaker:I do need to work on
Speaker:that a little bit more
Speaker:because kids do love
Speaker:to use the whiteboards.
Speaker:They like to roll on my board.
Speaker:I'm like, stop drawing on
Speaker:my board, I just cleaned it.
Speaker:I'm a real neat freak.
Speaker:I want my board to be crystal clean white
Speaker:when I'm done with it.
Speaker:After every class, I clean it off.
Speaker:But there's different ways
Speaker:that they can use those things
Speaker:and they like doing those kinds of things
Speaker:and like being artistic with that.
Speaker:The one area where I
Speaker:do use the whiteboards
Speaker:is on a speaking quiz.
Speaker:I'll have kids illustrate a story.
Speaker:So their goal is, there
Speaker:are four people in a group.
Speaker:They will make four, a comic
Speaker:strip with four boxes in it.
Speaker:And each kid's response,
Speaker:we're talking about one of the boxes.
Speaker:So I'll have them do that.
Speaker:And I basically have
Speaker:them use the whiteboard
Speaker:because I don't want them to waste paper
Speaker:because all I'm gonna do
Speaker:is when I see the picture,
Speaker:the picture is just for them for notes.
Speaker:They can't write any words
Speaker:on it, just the pictures.
Speaker:But normally when they did it on paper,
Speaker:I would just look at it, you
Speaker:didn't put any notes on it,
Speaker:great, go in the trash.
Speaker:This way it's not
Speaker:wasteful in the paper area.
Speaker:So that's the kind of thing on there.
Speaker:Anybody have any last
Speaker:final things they wanna say
Speaker:before we round up?
Speaker:And I will, before we do
Speaker:that, let me say one thing.
Speaker:If anybody watching
Speaker:either live or after the fact,
Speaker:if you have any tech
Speaker:tools that you absolutely love
Speaker:or absolutely hate,
Speaker:please let us know in the chat
Speaker:or the comments so we can
Speaker:share out with each other
Speaker:because we can all learn from each
Speaker:other's experiences.
Speaker:And with that, let's go
Speaker:through some final thoughts.
Speaker:For me, this was very enlightening.
Speaker:I did go to ACFO and I went
Speaker:to the brisk little segment,
Speaker:that 30 minute segment.
Speaker:I felt like it wasn't enough to explore,
Speaker:but that gives me
Speaker:something for a break to look at
Speaker:because that is pretty good
Speaker:if it's always underneath.
Speaker:I am still a Google Slides person,
Speaker:so I will use Google
Speaker:Slides, but on ViewSonic,
Speaker:it doesn't work well
Speaker:because we're in Microsoft school,
Speaker:so I have to go back to Canva.
Speaker:So I'm still learning
Speaker:the ins and outs of Canva.
Speaker:I can't make it pop like
Speaker:I can with Google Slides
Speaker:where images are sliding in
Speaker:and coming down and all this.
Speaker:So for me, those are two
Speaker:things that I wanna explore Canva
Speaker:and then look at chat GBT.
Speaker:Awesome, awesome.
Speaker:What about you, Noemi?
Speaker:Well, I'm definitely
Speaker:gonna go back to Go Formative
Speaker:or Formative rather and revisit
Speaker:after learning a little bit more from you
Speaker:about all the ways that you're using it.
Speaker:So I'm interested to kind
Speaker:of dabble back into that.
Speaker:And they've added flashcards too.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah, and try now,
Speaker:I guess keep it simple,
Speaker:but hopefully like
Speaker:user friendly for yourself
Speaker:would be my big takeaway.
Speaker:So I feel like we've all
Speaker:talked about tools that help us,
Speaker:that we've learned to
Speaker:become comfortable with.
Speaker:So staying in that lane and
Speaker:hopefully like digging deeper
Speaker:into whichever tool we
Speaker:really prefer what we like to use
Speaker:based on what works best for us.
Speaker:So everybody obviously
Speaker:has different preferences
Speaker:and different ideas and
Speaker:we kind of like gravitate
Speaker:towards what we like.
Speaker:And I will say the big thing
Speaker:cause I know a lot of
Speaker:people are technophobes.
Speaker:I am not, I love new technology,
Speaker:but whenever you finding a tool,
Speaker:if it doesn't make your
Speaker:job easier, then drop it.
Speaker:Just because someone says
Speaker:it's the best thing ever,
Speaker:it may not be for you.
Speaker:So find the tools that work for you and
Speaker:make your job easier.
Speaker:If a tech tool makes
Speaker:your job more difficult,
Speaker:then it's not the tech tool for you.
Speaker:So don't feel just
Speaker:because it's the new thing
Speaker:that everybody's talking
Speaker:about that you have to use it.
Speaker:And I'll give an example, GIMCIT.
Speaker:When GIMCIT first came
Speaker:out, I was terrified of it.
Speaker:I was a Kahoot person, I
Speaker:used Kahoot cause it was simple
Speaker:and had to learn something new.
Speaker:And then I would open up GIMCIT
Speaker:and look at all these games.
Speaker:I got to learn how to
Speaker:play all these dang games.
Speaker:I have no idea.
Speaker:And how am I gonna
Speaker:explain this to the kids?
Speaker:And I didn't realize that
Speaker:the kids already figured out
Speaker:how to play the games.
Speaker:I didn't have to worry about that.
Speaker:So then, but at the
Speaker:beginning, when it first came out,
Speaker:everybody said it was the
Speaker:next best thing in the world.
Speaker:I was, two years, I was two years
Speaker:before I got into GIMCIT.
Speaker:After everybody was hyping it up,
Speaker:because I'm just like, I looked at it.
Speaker:I didn't, I didn't play with it.
Speaker:So that was my fault.
Speaker:But I looked at it and go,
Speaker:it looks too complicated.
Speaker:I don't have time to
Speaker:add another technology.
Speaker:And I love technology.
Speaker:I did not have time to
Speaker:take another technology
Speaker:and learn another app.
Speaker:And then they had like 15 games on there.
Speaker:And I'm like, I gotta learn
Speaker:all these different games.
Speaker:What if they want to play this game
Speaker:and they hadn't
Speaker:learned how to play this one?
Speaker:Not realizing that part
Speaker:of the fun is for them
Speaker:to explore how to play the game.
Speaker:And how to learn the game.
Speaker:And how they work as a
Speaker:team to play the game,
Speaker:which is the beauty of GIMCIT.
Speaker:So, and the same thing with BLOOKIT,
Speaker:because then my kids say,
Speaker:I had one class who said, we hate GIMCIT.
Speaker:We want BLOOKIT.
Speaker:I'm like, what the hell is BLOOKIT?
Speaker:I never heard of it before.
Speaker:So I looked into it
Speaker:and then I had to start
Speaker:converting everything over
Speaker:to BLOOKIT and making things for BLOOKIT.
Speaker:The crypto hack was quite, yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, my kids like-
Speaker:Very heated with crypto.
Speaker:They fight between
Speaker:crypto hack and the gold one,
Speaker:the gold miner one.
Speaker:They go back and forth.
Speaker:And before we leave,
Speaker:I'll tell you my last
Speaker:little thing about chat GPT.
Speaker:And I'm sure the other
Speaker:ones will do it as well.
Speaker:If you go to both, whether
Speaker:it's GIMCIT or it's BLOOKIT
Speaker:or it's CAHOO, whatever thing,
Speaker:when they have those
Speaker:templates to add in the,
Speaker:you know, the answers, so you can do it,
Speaker:you can type them all in.
Speaker:I don't.
Speaker:I upload that blank form to chat GPT.
Speaker:I say, this is the blank BLOOKIT form.
Speaker:Here's my list of vocabulary.
Speaker:I want the questions
Speaker:to be all in English.
Speaker:And I need you to come up
Speaker:with a mixture of answers
Speaker:and scramble up the answers
Speaker:and come up with my CSV at the end.
Speaker:And I just download it
Speaker:and upload it to BLOOKIT.
Speaker:Oh my gosh, saves so much time
Speaker:because coming up with
Speaker:those different multiple choice
Speaker:things takes you forever.
Speaker:Yes, it does.
Speaker:And it does it for all of them.
Speaker:Just upload the blank
Speaker:template that they give you
Speaker:and you tell it to fill it.
Speaker:So I'll say, here's my unit 3A1
Speaker:vocabulary in Spanish.
Speaker:I don't even tell it
Speaker:what the translation is.
Speaker:I just say, I want my
Speaker:questions in English.
Speaker:I want my answer choices in Spanish.
Speaker:You come up with all the different ones.
Speaker:You choose the correct one,
Speaker:put it all under one format
Speaker:and I upload the BLOOKIT and I can do it
Speaker:in matter of minutes.
Speaker:I'm telling you, love it.
Speaker:Nice. Love it.
Speaker:Thank you for that tip.
Speaker:I'm gonna be using that.
Speaker:Yes, thank you for that one.
Speaker:Yeah, it saves me so much time.
Speaker:Like when they go, oh, they wanna BLOOKIT
Speaker:instead of a, I don't
Speaker:have a BLOOKIT for one.
Speaker:Give me two minutes.
Speaker:Okay, it's ready to go
Speaker:and I can get it done.
Speaker:Works really wonderful, I'm telling you.
Speaker:And I saved that one.
Speaker:So I use that one over and over again.
Speaker:So the prompts are all there.
Speaker:I just have to just
Speaker:upload my new vocabulary
Speaker:and say, please do it again.
Speaker:So I love that.
Speaker:So thank you both so
Speaker:much for joining us today
Speaker:and thanks all of you
Speaker:for joining us today.
Speaker:And a huge thank you to
Speaker:our guests, Noemi and Amina
Speaker:for bringing the wisdom.
Speaker:I'm so glad Amina was able
Speaker:to get over her technical
Speaker:difficulties. Ew, wow.
Speaker:I mean, it's kind of
Speaker:funny, on a tech show,
Speaker:you had some technical difficulties.
Speaker:And they went and let me in.
Speaker:Yeah, which is life.
Speaker:That's exactly what happens to us.
Speaker:And the honesty and
Speaker:the tech trauma, bonding,
Speaker:we all need it.
Speaker:And if you're walking
Speaker:away with one big takeaway,
Speaker:let it be this,
Speaker:tech should support
Speaker:your comprehensible input,
Speaker:not drain your soul, kind
Speaker:of like what I said earlier.
Speaker:Use what works, teach what doesn't,
Speaker:and don't feel guilty
Speaker:about closing an app mid-class
Speaker:if it's killing the vibe.
Speaker:Make sure you subscribe, leave a review
Speaker:and share this
Speaker:episode with another teacher
Speaker:who's one glitch away from snapping a
Speaker:Chromebook and a half.
Speaker:I've been there.
Speaker:You can always watch live on YouTube
Speaker:or catch the replay on
Speaker:your favorite podcast app,
Speaker:ditch the drills, trust the process,
Speaker:and I'll see you next
Speaker:time on "Comprehend This."
Speaker:Goodbye everybody.
Speaker:Adios.
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